Ssild Test 30 Days

Day 30, 31, 32 Bunch of bad partial attempts since I kept falling back asleep too quickly. Day 33 This time I was more caught up on sleep and I got out of bed and did the cycles and mantra in a comfy chair, then went straight back to bed. This seems to have worked, as I had a fairly vivid dream which got a little creepy and as a result I tried staring at one spot and then holding my breath in order to wake up. So there was a spontaneous semi-lucidity. Nights of good attempts: 21 (12 more partial); Lucids: 8; FAs: 15; HIs: 1

Just attempted SSILD while napping. But it turned into a WILD (I think). I was hearing voices, sounds, seeing flashing lights, and watching dream scenes. But once I realized I was being pulled into one, my mind would withdraw. This has never happened to me before. I can't even count how many dreamscapes I saw! The only problem was, I was afraid that if I let myself get involved, I wouldn't be lucid, so I kept my mind back. I pictured a meadow scene and tried to turn it into a dreamscape. Didn't work And it was a very simple place too

Day 34 Bad partial attempt. Day 35 Not really any results. I did have one dream though where I was falling asleep and thought to try to WILD while doing so. I wonder what would have happened had I not woken up before I fell asleep in the dream. I think it was the next WBTB alarm that woke me too. Day 36 Alright, lucid again. Low lucidity, forgot all of my goals, but it feels good for the dry spell to be over. Account: 12th Lucid Dream: Nights of good attempts: 23 (13 more partial); Lucids: 9; FAs: 15; HIs: 2 I have noticed that this technique seems to work better (at least for me) when I am not behind on sleep from previous nights. Being more sleepy makes me (1) sleepier during the cycles and barely able to do them without constant distraction, and (2) dream awareness is lowered, making it an uphill battle to get lucid.

My Bio gives background on LDs previous to Feb 2013 and an SP episode. I don't have great records but I have had 2 LD's that I attribute to SSILD out of probably 7 or so attempts. SSILD sub types: 1 - DILD (via dream sign), 1 - WILD (huge vibrations and jumped into a dream with flying and fire throwing!) Not the method, but the success and anticipation is affecting my being able to go back to sleep (I normally have no trouble. I wake up once nightly on average to go to the bathroom). At first I thought it was the SSILD method but found same trouble without doing the cycles/method if I am thinking much about LDs when trying to go back to sleep. In case it helps anyone with the same issue or also if anyone has suggestions for WBTB insomnia which must be a form of "middle of the night insomnia", "maintenance insomnia" among other names I will list what I am trying to get around this issue. -Avoid thoughts of LD including using methods during nights before work days or needing to get up early with energy. -If I cheat and do it during work week, don't do it 2 nights in a row (2nd night of insomnia=great exhaustion, 1 night of 45-90minutes of insomnia = not bad exhaustion next day) -avoid night light when I get up to go to bathroom, and I stay up very little (no trouble staying alert to do cycles, though some drifting) -close the drapes to keep the early morning light from creeping in eventually -put in ear plugs after waking to reduce various real life noises - though I may need better ear plugs -tried adding thinking about area 2 inches above roof of mouth to induce sleepiness -read somewhere..not sure if it or a combination of methods may have helped reduce the insomnia time to 45minutes last night and brought on SP and vibrations..didn't transition to LD this time but fell asleep shortly after.

Day 37, 38, 39 One good attempt and 2 partial attempts, no results. Day 40 Another lucid dream and a false awakening. I did pretty bad, didn't stabilize at all, but that's my bad. Account: 13th Lucid Dream Nights of good attempts: 25 (15 more partial); Lucids: 10; FAs: 16; HIs: 2

I figured i should add my two cents. the SSILD has worked for me; i only used it once though. but my God did it work amazingly. the SSILD is actually how i had my first AP. every since that first time i did it i would AP naturally (it is kinda scary sometime to wake up and feel vibs outta the blue). one thing though about the way people seem to be using it: it seems like people are just throwing the SSILD into there WBTB technique. from what i read, you do the SSILD before bed and when you wake up after your normal dream cycle you will be in the phase state without doing anything. it's a self hypnosis method that continues after you fall asleep. so you really should be waking up into a SP state. I hope that helps. again, i found great results by just doing the simple hypnosis and nothing more. dont expect it to be harder than it is--mantras seem to help too STAY LUCID!!!

Day 42-49 I have not forgotten about this thread. I had some partial attempts, some days I was just attempting DEILD, and then I get the flu, which puts my efforts at LDs on hold so I can just sleep. I think the last 4 good attempts I will try using the cycles as an anchor for DEILD. Nights of good attempts: 26 (17 more partial); Lucids: 12; FAs: 17; HIs: 2

This seems interesting though I am late to the party Could someone explain(or provide a link to an explanation/tutorial): -SSILD summary -What "FAs" are(just what it stands for would be sufficient. EDIT:Nevermind I found it. I did a DV search and got nothing but google brought up a DV thread on the subject.

I'm starting this tonight, I haven't been able to recall greatly but I'm not giving up LD. __________________________________________________ ________________________ I didn't have a lucid dream nor a FA, less this entire morning has been one. I did the WBTB at around 1 am and I couldn't get my money to sleep. I felt my body spinning but anytime I got close to what I thought was a dream, I just awoke more. Any tips on keeping my mind calm while I let the the dream take me away?

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss: Good job penny. This looks like the right method for you! If you have any questions just ask. What all are you doing besides SSILD? -------- Being very meticulous about reminding myself of my goals nightly before bed in my dream journal. Remind myself of my goals through mantra for 10-15minutes or until I fall asleep. I'll do a WBTB after a natural awakening usually 4-6 hours after falling asleep and I stay up for 5-15 minutes depending how on how awake I start to feel. If I have the day off I'll get up make breakfast, maybe go run an errand or two come back and try to WILD which so far has always ended up with me falling asleep but I feel like I'm coming closer to a good transition.

Originally Posted by Tiresias: PennyRoyale, this is a bit much to ask, but can you detail how you are doing the SSILD method. I want to see your take on it since you are getting very good results right out the gate. -------- It's no problem. I don't use SSILD when I go to bed at night. I'll remind myself of my goals in my Dreamjournal and think about them when I go to sleep. I tend to wake up naturally around 2am, which for me is about 4 hours of sleep. When i get my natural awakening I use the bathroom if I need to, drink some water, etc.. No more than usually 5-10 minutes. When I try to do cycles without getting up I fall asleep before I can even finish the first one sometimes. I'll do 2-3 quick cycles, then 3 or 4 regular ones. When I'm done - sometimes I'll roll over and go to sleep, or I try to do all three parts of the cycle simultaneously until I fall asleep just because I find it makes me fall asleep pretty fast. I often get multiple natural awakenings during the night. I try to do this every time one of those occurs - but at least once a night.

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal: It's no problem. I don't use SSILD when I go to bed at night. I'll remind myself of my goals in my Dreamjournal and think about them when I go to sleep. I tend to wake up naturally around 2am, which for me is about 4 hours of sleep. When i get my natural awakening I use the bathroom if I need to, drink some water, etc.. No more than usually 5-10 minutes. When I try to do cycles without getting up I fall asleep before I can even finish the first one sometimes. I'll do 2-3 quick cycles, then 3 or 4 regular ones. When I'm done - sometimes I'll roll over and go to sleep, or I try to do all three parts of the cycle simultaneously until I fall asleep just because I find it makes me fall asleep pretty fast. I often get multiple natural awakenings during the night. I try to do this every time one of those occurs - but at least once a night. -------- PennyRoyal, may I ask if you were having trouble falling back to sleep and started doing all three simultaneously to help that? That is my one challenge with the method it seems to wake me up a lot but I did have success with it last night and had my first two false awakenings which were completely lucid instantly due to feeling a floating sensation and had a wonderful lucid dream! I did also tweak it a little bit after 6 short cycles(must have been super tired) I was already starting to get the mini dreams and started playing with those images and next thing I remember I had the false awakenings.