Ssild Test 30 Days

Originally Posted by Nicho: Ok, so I've read a couple of posts today that have mentioned SSILD, yet try as I have, I can't find any posts on what it actually entails or indeed even stands for. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, I don't know, but you have peaked my interest. Just for the noobs out there -ME- would you please explain how I go about practising SSILD...? Thanks in advance. Nicho...! -------- Hi ! this is the original revised tutorial of SSILD. : If you get insomnia from it, you can ckeck cosmiciron's tips but also check out this book (page 254, 255, 256 but preferably the whole chapter 3): Lucid Wishes

Originally Posted by Denholm: Nicho, I tried to post a link to the most up-to-date SSILD tutorial but apparently I need to be a member for a few extra days before I can post links! I think you'd find it in a previous post in this thread (not sure exactly where though). -------- CosmicIron, are there any supplements that you have found to be especially effective in combination with SSILD? -------- The most effective so far is galantamine and alpha GPC combo. Basically you get up after 4 hours of sleep, take the supplements and immediately go back to bed. Perform a few SSILD cycles -- don't do too many because you don't want to wait till the supplements cross the blood brain barrier which may cause insomnia. This should set up the stage for a wild experience an hour or two later. Make sure you RC upon each subsequent awakening because you will be having FAs like crazy. The nice thing about this combo is that you don't have to spend a long time to try to induce a WILD. Traditionally after taking these supplements you need to spend a long time doing relaxation and other WILD techniques, and they only become effective after the supplements begin to work. This process can take more than an hour and you often risk not being able to fall back to sleep. With SSILD you only need to spend between 5-10 minutes. You may feel this is too short and want to repeat the cycles more. Don't! The supplements are your fuel and SSILD the key. You start the engine and let it roll. Don't want to crank it all the times right?

Originally Posted by Denholm: Tried SSILD again last night. No LD, but I did (again) find myself in a subsequent dream talking to dream characters about lucid dreaming. I also have a memory of thinking I was nearly in a dream after doing SSILD and trying to rub my hands to stabilize the dream. I *think* I ended up rubbing my hands in real life and assuming I wasn't asleep. I don't remember what happened next but I think I entered a non-lucid dream fairly quickly. I feel that the SSILD technique serves as a kind of "bridge" between waking consciousness and the dream world in a way that other non-WILD techniques do not seem to do. At least in my own (very limited) subjective experience so far. Very interesting technique! 3 Nights, 0 Successful (0 Lucid, 0 FA) -------- I think your observation is correct. There is one especially interesting observation based on my personal experience which supports what you say. it usually goes like this: I woke up some time later from doing SSILD. Reality checked and I was not in a dream. I could no longer utilize the split seconds to perform DEILD or similar tricks because I have physically moved around quit a bit. At this point, I would fully relax the back of my head, allowing it to sink into the pillow, and begin to shift my "focus point of self-awareness" (don't bother looking it up, it's my own "invention" LOL). This would often result in immediate vibrations, ringing sounds, and so on. Even without those, I can usually shift to a different phase easily and quickly. I have done this sort of phase shifting for years and it is possible for me to shift from fully awakened state to dreams within seconds. However, this is still rare and difficult to achieve. On the other hand, with SSILD as the warmup, this stunt can be accomplished every single time! I cannot help but think that SSILD did something that seems to weaken the bound of our physical reality.

icho, I tried to post a link to the most up-to-date SSILD tutorial but apparently I need to be a member for a few extra days before I can post links! I think you'd find it in a previous post in this thread (not sure exactly where though). -------- That's ok, I found the technique tutorial. I tried it before bed - against your advice - and I immediately felt the room starting to spin, but then I just woke up. The next night, I tried a WBTB with SSILD, but I may have stayed up to late to make it effective. I am going to stick with this one, joint venture with WBTB, I will of course post and results, good or bad as per usual. Thanks, Nicho...! N.b. Heres a link to an SSILD tutorial that may shed some light on the matter, hope it help. If CosmicIron has any problems, PM me and I'll remove it right away.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss: Sounds like you are just gonna be wasting your time. Consistency is more important am than any drug. You won't be LDing unless you get a random LD that way. (Random LD is an LD you get without a tech, normally comes when you stop LDing for a while, but also happens to people practicing incorrectly). Check out this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...important.html Supplements and techniques aren't on anyone's list -------- ^this is so crucial. Lack of results is caused by lack of the fundamentals of lucid dreaming, not doing techniques 'wrong'. This is not to say that techniques don't train in the fundamentals, but they are ancillary.

Thank you Penny! Almost to day 30...mixed feelings as I look forward to your updates on this technique. Seems to have been an effective induction technique for me and many others...but yes, you still need the fundamentals to make real strides(especially with PTSD I would think) unless you are some kind of natural.

Originally Posted by VagalTone: One major problem i had while doing SSILD was falling asleep too soon. Since i discovered this, it has become more effective. So i keep my forearm upright until i finish ssild. -------- Doesn't it say that if you asleep too soon to just stay awake longer? General WBTB rules will apply to this.

When I first started doing SSILD, I think the excitement of having a lucid made it difficult for me to fall asleep. After the first week I was falling asleep pretty easily before I could finish the cycles. I do 2-3 fast cycles that I know I can complete, then I'll move onto doing slower cycles until I pass out. But any way, this tech seems to really do the trick for me. I havn't been lucid in a dream since Labor Day weekend (September) - I had two last night. Night 1 - No FA, 2 Lucid. Total: 1 Night, 0 FA, 2 Lucid Journal Entry

Originally Posted by ZippLord47: I usually have 75-80% success with SSILD it s my favourite method -------- So with this you have about 5 and 1/2 LDs a week? I don't really use, I use my own variation of SSILD. Taking the parts that make me lucid more often. Dropping what is useless for me, and adapting it all together into my own technique.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss: I don't really use, I use my own variation of SSILD. Taking the parts that make me lucid more often. Dropping what is useless for me, and adapting it all together into my own technique. -------- Can you expand on this? I'm curious as to what you find most helpful...

Day 1 and 2 Lucids: 0 FA: 0 Last night was technically Day 3 but I forgot about doing SSILD. For the first two days, I fell asleep in the first cycle of it, so I need to stay up later. I think i'm going to skip it tonight too unless I wake up naturally because I'm pretty tired and need to catch up on sleep because school...

Day 2 Attempts: 1 LDs: 0 FAs: 0 Last night I woke up at 3am, went to the bathroom, drank a glass of apple juice and then went back to bed to do the cycles. During the slow cycles I noticed that I was getting distracted a lot by random thoughts, but I finished the cycles. After that I tried to fall asleep, but it took a while and I had no lucids.

Hey I'm back from a long hiatus and will finally have a consistent sleep schedule! Right before I left I was experimenting with this method so that is where I will pick up again. Last night I tried this for Day 1 Attempts: 1 LDs: 0 FAs:0 I woke up after 4 hours of sleep. Was too lazy to actually get out of bed for WBTB and fell asleep prematurely. Will try again tonight with hopefully better results!