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Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis

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The major distros, (Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Fedora, Debian). Fedora, OpenSUSE and Ubuntu offer preinstalled desktops if you want it pre-built instead of a manual download through the software centre.
It's just a stupid oversight for a "Pro" computer to not have an SD card slot. Carrying a USB-C to SD card adapter is just one more fucking thing you have to keep up with in your kit. Busy professionals shouldn't have to worry about that kind of shit. SD card slots have been standard on MBPs since at least the aluminum unibody model. The same is true for the lack of a single USB 3 slot. Sure, USB-C is most likely the future, but it's going to be years before everyone is finished converting. Starting with the Retina MBP, the laptops have been thinner than anyone needs out of a high performance laptop. They sacrificed user-replaceable hard drives and RAM, features that actually matter to professionals, for the sake of being thinner. I've carried a Mac laptop since the PowerBook G4 and I don't see myself ever buying another Mac.
Thanks for the tip. I have been using XFCE since I dislike where Gnome has gone (v3). I'll have to look into MATE. Thx.
I crossed over into Apple territory when Vista happened. I have lots of macs and have also been buying the surface pros since they started coming out too. Don't get me wrong. The surfaces are fine devices and have gotten better with each iteration. But I'm not ready to switch back to windows for three reasons: 1. windows is just worse than OSX. Cosmetically and behaviourally. I know the second part here might be more opinion than fact but I've had a lot less problems with OSX than I have with W10 2. OSX is unix baked and I write a lot of software (including iOS in fact) so I'm pretty much tethered to OSX only at this point 3. build quality. High quality windows machines are rare. I would class the SP4 as being a high quality windows machine but still not on par with the quality you know you're getting with an apple product The Macbook fiasco has really ticked me off at Apple. I'll probably end up staying within their ecosystem but I'll just be using my 2014 rMBP and rImac until 2020 or something before I consider upgrading. I can afford to upgrade as often as I'd like, but just the principle of dropping 5k on a macbook every other year, as opposed to 2k leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
You're missing his point badly. The kinds of people who buy $3000 MBP notebooks are the type of people who use Photoshop, or Pro Tools, or Premiere, or some other software that doesn't have a good Linux counterpart. Those users might be a tiny majority of all users, but they're a majority of the people who buy expensive "professional" notebooks. Those people aren't moving to Linux anytime soon because the software isn't there. Also, widespread Linux is already here. It's on a majority of smart phones. Most people don't care or know any more than they know they've got a Samsung or something like that.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with every points. Mr. Cook has killed the Apple I had loved and evangelized for the past 25 years. I too will stick to the Apple ecosystem for exactly the same reasons you listed, but I no longer love it :(
2014 rMBP isn't even that old....why are you upgrading after only 2 years? You should still have 2 good years left out of that thing at least
How well does it work for HiDPI and multiple monitors? Any improvements lately?
I keep hearing the SD card excuse for hating the Macbook Pro. Dude...hook up your $3000 camera with the damn USB cable (your camera probably came with one) directly to your MacBook. Yeah, you gotta buy a new USB-C to micro-B cable for $10 on Amazon, but what's the big deal. You bought a $3000 camera, so what's $10 for a cable that's objectively better. I understand taking your cards out of the camera in the field when they're full, but when you're at your desk, uploading photos, just hook your camera up to the computer. It's not like you're actively using your camera and while your photos are transferring, the USB port can charge the battery too.
You're hyped about a $4,000 laptop with 16GB of RAM, barely 9 hours of battery life, and no USB ports or SD card slot? Really?
The only reason I have my current 13" rMBP is that it was the best hidpi laptop that was supported under Linux at the time. I will not be getting another one.
> You're missing his point badly. On the contrary, I think you are. I was addressing to him the same old tired excuses I've heard for years used by the proprietary usage fanboys. Maybe he should have used a more rational argument like yours instead of resorting to that tired old nonsense. >The kinds of people who buy $3000 MBP notebooks are the type of people who use Photoshop, or Pro Tools, or Premiere, or some other software that doesn't have a good Linux counterpart. The article doesn't mention any of that. For people into doing those sorts of things, they would stick with an Apple machine anyway, and I doubt any of those people will jump into buying a System76 machine without checking out what it's capabilities are, beforehand. I assume they're smart enough to do so. Hmm? No, the article seems to focus more on users that would be one step below that, those in the $2,000 - $2,400 price range and below. And if you bothered to read it, it also said: >*"Obviously we aren't comparing apples to apples (pun intended). If you absolutely need macOS for certain software or licenses, an Ubuntu machine will not meet your needs. Also, the System76 machine does not have Apple's revolutionary Touch Bar."* ~ >Also, widespread Linux is already here. It's on a majority of smart phones. And this article has nothing to do with phones so once again, it is **you** who've absolutely missed the point badly. Come back when you've read the article.
I think I've used the SD card slot twice. And it has four USB ports.
People still use SD cards? Aren't those slots rather slow?
My new digital camera uses SD card. I don't know if there are cameras with any other options?
I'm with you. I don't think I'll own another new shiny Apple computer. I have high hopes they push tech/performance on the next iPad Pro, but this lackluster MacBook has me worried they aren't concerned with the professional market anymore.
I'm not going to lie. I'd kill for that battery life on my laptop. I get a measly 5hrs. But hey, getting work done faster is worth charging my laptop a bit more frequently. :p
Hi, Creative Director at a decent sized agency here and heavily involved in the creative agency industry. Photoshop is the defacto standard in our industry. Other tools are used, yes, but it's very rare to find a photoshop-free team.
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I like the forward thinking. IIRC it's rated for 10, but I usually am plugged in somewhere. There are 4 USB ports, and I already have a few USB Type C devices ready to use em, and a nice breakout adapter to dock into that gives me every port I need -- I'll be going from FIVE plugs to one via my 5k LG. I do branding, UI, UX, photo editing and post, and light web development. My current machine has 16 and quite frankly I doubt I use much more than 8 unless I'm really punishing my machine with 24MP RAW files, even then, I rarely use more than 10GB. By the time I need 32GB I'm sure they'll be a configuration out that either has fast enough of an SSD that RAM is near meaningless or I'll just go buy the 32GB model and sell the late 2016.
Different strokes for different folks. My 70D connects via Wifi, and the docking station I'll have in my studio has all the ports and SD slots I need -- with one connection that is also powering my laptop. My current workflow requires FIVE plugs that a single breakout box with a single cable will now take care of. YMMV as always
I don't like hanging on to them too long after apple care expires because of common issues these things have, since they are now virtually non self-repairable outside of minor things.
Then a System76 machine wouldn't be right for you. And how big is your industry?
You could do all of that on a machine that's $2,500 cheaper...
the digital marketing industry is currently worth $62 Billion and rapidly growing especially in the creative/design front.
How many machines, thereabouts? A few hundred? A couple of thousand?
I prefer the Apple ecosystem, to each their own. I'm sensitive to the price issue for others but it really isn't a big deal for my personal/professional budget.
in our entire INDUSTRY? jesus, many. i wouldn't know where to begin. We have 17 people at all have various MacBooks. We'll have more than a few 2016s in a few weeks but some of the assistants and managers don't need upgrades. We don't have any desktops.
I like Apple myself. I stick to iPhones and have a MacBook Air as my personal device. Granted, I have the $1,000 model, and I went Mac because after long days of fucking with computers, I don't want to come home and fuck with a computer (sorry, Linux). But I find their price tags really hard to swallow sometimes.
I moved to Linux from Windows in 1999, then moved to OSX in 2006 due to the hardware quality and underlying Unix setup. Windows 10 now has a Bash shell and I'm considering picking up a Microsoft Surface Book since the hardware seems better now.

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