Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis

Oh, I'm not sure i'm going to update hardware this time around. I have a top of the line last rev MBP and a perfectly capable imac (both work machines). Massively overpowered for 90% of what I throw at it. Anything heavy goes onto my under-desk VM/Container box. At home it's a hackintosh/windows/linux box and another linux virt/container server. I just really like the OS, man. Their key combo game is on point.

I wrote "fuck you" in response to your comment about Macs not being for me. I'm the professional content creator that Apple used to love. Apple has consistently fucked content creators by releasing shitty laptops that can't be upgraded since the MBP Retina. I used to defend Apple against charges of being overpriced because their Pro line of laptops was evenly priced against other Pro offerings and was easy to upgrade. Apple has become the company of shitty overpriced hardware that dipshits used to say they were.

Thanks for the precision. I was mentioning old boxes with removable batteries : one 1998 iMac (Flower Power model) still in use (for music sequences mostly - old software installed on it : Max, CSound, BolProcessor, etc.); a now defunct PowerBook which lasted from 2003 till 2013; a 2010 Mac Mini (hard disk replaced by SSD and RAM added); 2005 iBook & two iMacs (2005 and 2007) still rocking. Obviously, that's enough for what I do on it (nothing heavy, mostly terminal, programming, browsing and experimental music).

I had some of the older Macs, and they were rather rugged machines of great reliability. The new ones are not quite so sensible in their construction, and even premium products like Thinkpads offer a lot more power for a lot less money. If it works, it works. But I would not want to own my 2013 rMBP at five years of age. Heck, I'm a bit nervous about it at three.

Once again you are proving you know literally nothing about the Apple lineup or the history of the hardware but for some reason still insist on acting like an expert. Literally all of the items I listed came out before 2005 (with the exception of the original uni-body MBP which I think came out in 07). If you had any idea what you were talking about, you woulda have known that.

Yes, Macs are no longer for me and I'm pissed off about it. Apple has a long reputation as a company that makes overpriced crap and that reputation used to frustrate me because they made great products for content creators that honestly weren't much more expensive than comparable products but offered better form factors without sacrificing connectivity. Their push to make the MBP as thin as possible drives me crazy and it's the reason that I won't be buying another Mac until they change course.

> Worse displays Surface and most top end devices have surpassed retina. To the point where I keep wondering if Apple will release Retina 2.0 > worse trackpads (or just a lack of gesture support due to Windows) Windows has supported gestures in a premium way since 8. Those gestures are on par with Mac, and that is at the OS level. Not all OEMs support it, but every device I suggested does. > OEM installed bloatware That's why you always buy Microsoft Certified devices. > then there's just the stability of OS X vs Windows In my experience working with both OSs, El Capitan is far less stable that Windows 10 with Anniversary update.

There is no point continuing this because clearly we just have different opinions. Neither of us are wrong we just have different experiences. If you like windows so much I'm glad and you should continue to enjoy using it, I enjoy windows and my surface but I ly prefer OSX and will keep using that.

Fair enough, but I would like to point out, based on the checklist above, your opinions are stuck half a decade in the past. BTW, I switch between OSX and Windows daily because of my line of work. The same work that has me constantly playing with new devices. I'm not bias, I like both, but your ideas of Windows machines are dated.