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Just Got My New Surface Book With Performance Base!

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I'm pretty sure the keys themselves are identical to the original. So, really quick, I'm actually a really big MS fanboy (Even my phone is a Lumia 950xl) so it kinda feels bad to me not to be in love with this device. So, maybe my expectations were too high. Also keep in mind my previous/current device was/is an SP3 and I *loved* it, so that's the experience I'm comparing too. A lot of this isn't bad, just different. * On my SP3 I kind-of got into a seamless rhythm of using Pen/touch/mouse. (Trackpad on the 3 is terrible) On the book the trackpad is far superior, so good I don't even feel I need a mouse, but it's worse for using pen and touch on. The screen feels farther away (more reaching) and it bounces a lot whereas the kickstand on the Pro series makes those really solid when applying pressure. * The pen only attaches to the left side? I'm right handed and reaching across the screen for it is awkward. * Spongey keys. Unpopular opinion: I prefer typing on my SP3's type cover to this. * All the lag from W10 OS is still here. I was hoping the spec boost would minimize this, but it certainly feels just as bad. (Have you ever had the start menu refuse to pop-up? Or often times it takes a full second to do so.) * I knew going in that the tablet section didn't have much battery, but boy does it not have a lot of battery. Tablet battery also does not charge from the base. Also, normal use with the top attached will still drain the tablet's battery. (for some reason.) * Battery life in general does not seem as outrageously good as advertised. I can *probably* take this to work without a charger, but I don't think I'd want to risk it. (The estimate is insanely inaccurate btw. Right now it says 1hr 46min left with 50% battery remaining. I have 4 tabs of edge open and nothing else.) I'm being incredibly nit-picky, but for 3 grand I kind-of feel entitled to be so. :/ It *is* a great device. It looks great, I love the concept, I'm a big fan of the surface team... but I think I *may* be returning this and waiting to see how the Pro 5 turns out. P.S. The Surface Dial is enjoyable.
Congrats! I'm curious about the screen and hinge. When you're typing or touching the screen does it wobble/rock back and forth at all? I remember trying a SB at the Microsoft store and that kind of stuck out for me as distracting.
I know what you mean, all of my machines had it to various degrees. I've definitely read about it in some threads since it came out. Unless it's extremely loud and sounds like something is seriously wrong, I would say don't worry about it.
Many of your points are valid, specially considering the price of the machine. Some are more of a personal preference, like the keyboard feel. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
No problem. I'm not trying to dissuade you or anyone else. That's just my personal experience. I might just be more of a Surface Pro form factor kinda guy.
What does Go GPU / Go RAM mean on the box?
My own experience with the non-Performance Base model has been in stark contrast to your experience. I'm curious as to whether your experience is indicative of the Performance Base model, or simply unique to yourself. Regarding your points: 1. I agree that it's too wobbly compared to the Surface Pro. I only use the pen while the top is detached or flipped around. 2. I also agree that it should be attachable to either side, but it's not a major inconvenience since I never use it while in laptop mode. 3. No spongey feel here. Lots of reports that it's unique to the Performance Base because there's less travel room under the keyboard. 4. I only experience lag when Battery Mode goes on the fritz and throttles the CPU too aggressively. Otherwise Windows 10 AU has been smooth as butter, and I'm running an i5 compared to your i7. 5. I was initially disappointed with the Clipboard's poor battery, but I would highly suggest turning on Battery Saver whenever you're not engaged in high performance activities. My Clipboard easily lasts about 5+ hours by itself, and 12+ hours when connected to the base. I bring my SB's charger to work, but so far I haven't had a need to use it since the battery easily lasts a whole work day while in Battery Saver mode. I'm currently at 60% and it's showing that I still have over 6 hours of battery left.
I experience wobble when touching the screen, but none whatsoever while I'm typing.
I think 'Go' is the abbreviation for Gigabytes in Spanish
didn't know that. thanks.
I got mine and I'm blown away... This is literally the no compromise device I've been waiting for. My Impressions: * You need a light tablet.... sure pop it off and have this 1.6lb little unit to casually browse at home on the couch. * You want to type... check got you covered. I do agree that the new base's keys feel a bit more spongey, but I like the feel, they also feel like they are rounded around the edges more so your fingertips fall right down into the key. * You want to game? Well, I just turned on a few games and this thing literally runs about anything at full HD resolution at 60FPS+ Tombraider running at full high settings at 60FPS plus. I even turned on TressFX and everything! * You need all day battery life? for people who do a lot of coding and text editing... or other things that really don't stress the cpu very much; I guarantee that if you are in a dim room working at low brightness this thing can get close to 20 hours. Obviously if you want to game or do more intensive things, battery life will be less time proportionally. * You want to draw? - nothing new here, but you've got the pen and its a great experience as always. All this in a small 3lb and change package.... I'm seriously giddy about this revision. That said... Downsides: * I still feel like microsoft needs to rework the rubber feet. I feel like the bottom of the base is scratching every time I set it down on a desk. It also slides very easily. * The AC adapter is larger than the original Surfacebook with dGPU. Not a big deal, but it is quite a bit bigger.
There is nothing to worry about. The sound comes from the protective sheath that protects the ribbon cable that connects the clipboard to the base.
There is no difference in the key layout. The reason you are making mistakes is because of the angle of the keyboard. The V1 Surface Book is flat the Performance base is angled. You have to reach up and out to get the keys you want whereas before you only had to reach out. The up and out actually increases the distance and requires more effort from your hands.
Nope, i'm definitely delusional, my hands have gotten smaller. serious note: that probably makes sense.
You're a fool. First of all the claimed battery life of 16 hours is watching an optimized video and medium brightness only. Second if you do anything more than watch a video you will get less life, around the 8-10 hours. Third OF COURSE if you are doing web browsing and PHOTOSHOP which uses the dGPU you are going to get 5 hours or less. This is true of ANY mobile device from ANY brand on the fricking planet. I am so sick of idiotic people on the planet expecting physics to stop working because they think it should.
Ok, again, a MacBook Air does not have the power of the Surface Book. IT WILL DRAIN LESS POWER AND HAVE LONGER BATTERY LIFE! 6-7 hours of "normal" use as you say could be anything. I personally get 6-9 hours of normal use, plenty to get through a full day. There are some legitimate battery complaints like failures and the sleep drain. However, most of the posts about it just not lasting long enough come from people who just don't understand the limits of battery technology and how much power they are actually using when being connected to wifi, browsing, watching youtube, Netflix and doing other things like browsing files on their computer. All of these things add up and drain your battery.
I will agree with you on this. I have tried every battery saver me that I can find and it always ends up being about the same. I have a Surface Pro 4
Did they fix the light bleed on the screen? It's most noticeable when you boot it when the Surface logo is on screen. I've gotten two and they both have it in different places.
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It's running off the GPU, I can't undock it while running PS.
I would recommend a dBrand skin for the base of your SB to prevent scratching.
That's normal. Even though you are using the dGPU, PS is still ridiculously CPU intensive. Expect the SB and SP4 to get warm on the screen when drawing on it.
The OS lag, more to do with the dual core CPU. The SB is more of a Ultrabook then a pro grade laptop.
did you upgrade from the original SB or something else? If it was the original SB, do you think it's worth it?
Upgraded from a Surface Pro 3 (i5/256). I have an Alienware Alpha desktop that I only use for occasional gaming so I wanted to combine both of those machines into one that was portable and capable of gaming. So far so good!
So you think it's normal to get 5 hours with some """""hard""""" work ? this is not even hard! As I mentioned before, you've never owned a macbook. Why then people who owned a MacBook Always agree with me ? why then? I used to use Photoshop and stuff like that and my MacBook pro (claimed 10 hours of battery life) lasted something like 8 hours with the same """"hard"""" work. The SB performance base is claimed to last 16 (6 hours more than the MacBook) but it lasts less then MacBook (5 hours). I don't get all this hate for Apple. They make good things but they are overpriced, that's their bad side, but it's obvious they make good stuff. Their battery optimization is just WAY BETTER than Windows 10 and that's obvious (you can keep your laptop for 24 hours in sleep mode and you will not get 1% of battery drain). I don't get why you get angry and why you don't like more battery life. I don't really understand why you people want to be stuck in this situation. I'm sure this thing can be fixed and everybody would be happier. Rational people will understand me , but I'm in the wrong subreddits to find one. It's like going to Apple subreddit and say that Surface Studio is innovative : they will just say that Apple is better and that Surface Studio is useless... you are so blind and not ready to say that your favourite Tech House may needs to improve itself
LOL. If you only knew that 3 out of 5 people in my household use Macbooks you wouldn't sound like such an idiot. I have used their Macbooks. Their battery life is no better than my Surface Book. My wife sits at her desk in our office right next to me we both start our day roughly the same time and our computers trade blows on whose system will last longer without being plugged in. Sometimes she wins sometimes I win but it is never by a HUGE margin.
this thing is expensive, but is perfect, you can game on this, have many output ports, its light, you can draw, the battery lasts forever, going agressive on the gpu instead of CPU (instead of goign quad core i7), is the best idea!
I'm going to get one soon. Have you played Fallout 4 with some heavier ENB mods? As long as that works I'd be happy :)

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