Senses Initiated Lucid Dream Ssild

Originally Posted by Sydney: I got lucid again last night I got back in bed after my WBTB (5 hours and 30 minutes), and did 5 cycles I think. My mind kept wandering which was good. But, after I got comfortable again, it took me FOREVER to fall back to sleep. Literally, I was probably laying there/tossing and turning after the cycles for about an hour. Even though it took me a while to fall asleep, I was still lucid anyway. It was a weird lucid though (lucid from the start of a dream), at one point I thought I came back into SP, but I think I was dreaming then. It was weird. Any tips on how I can fall asleep faster? I've always had troubles with falling asleep. -------- Did you feel tired after you wake up in the morning? If not, then you might be experiencing really convincing false awakenings. Please take a close look at the "Common causes for loss of sleep" section of my original post. That should explain most scenarios. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Sydney: Kinda creepy how real it felt then. -------- Yes it can be extremely realistic, even the way the bed sheet rubbing against your skin, the person snoring beside you, and etc. The rule of sum is, if you consistantly find yourself not being able to fall asleep, or you suddenly wake up after doing the exerice, you should perform an RC regardless how certain you are.

Reading all of the replies, I have NEVER seen a technique with this much success. I have been here a while and I truly think that this could replace the traditional WILD and other variations of it. It also seems a million times simpler than the traditional one. I will try this tonight and post my results tomorrow. Thanks a million!

Huh, I certainly like the sound of this tech. To me, traditional WILD's have been WAY too much work and with my lifestyle, losing sleep is out of the question. I will definitely attempt this one, thanks mate. @McDreamy - Why are you uncertain about OBE's? Are you afraid of them? Originally Posted by Sydney: Do you mean to say that I could have been in an FA last night, trying to fall asleep while I was already "sleeping"? -------- Ahaha, yes this intrigues me. How amazing is it that even when you are expecting it, your mind tricks you so. This has happened to me many times. Once, I was floating in circles above my bed but all I was thinking was "agh, another failed WILD attempt, better just go to sleep now". It was in fact, quite frustrating.

@McDreamy Fair enough, and yes. I have had a couple of OBE's and IMO, they are no different from a regular LD. I think it's just your mind simulating the experience so well it can be misconstrued as an actual "leaving of ones body". Don't worry about them, they are in fact, quite entertaining and after I "left my body" so to speak, everything behaved as a regular LD, things changed around me etc. Although some would say my experience wasn't an OBE I say to them, "I was out of my body, therefore it was an Out of Body experience." Thank you.

Originally Posted by Sydney: I got lucid again last night I got back in bed after my WBTB (5 hours and 30 minutes), and did 5 cycles I think. My mind kept wandering which was good. But, after I got comfortable again, it took me FOREVER to fall back to sleep. Literally, I was probably laying there/tossing and turning after the cycles for about an hour. Even though it took me a while to fall asleep, I was still lucid anyway. It was a weird lucid though (lucid from the start of a dream), at one point I thought I came back into SP, but I think I was dreaming then. It was weird. Any tips on how I can fall asleep faster? I've always had troubles with falling asleep. -------- This is exactly what happened to me last night except I didn't get lucid . It took me SOOO long to get to sleep. Can anyone give me tips on falling asleep quicker?

I tried this technique last night and the following results occured: I slept through my 4:30 alarm but awoke at daybreak, probably around 6:30. I thought "even though my mother will be up in another hour or so, I'll try it anyway." So, I did the techniques as stated in the OP and found myself drifting off regularly. When I decided it was enough I took about 10-15 minutes to fall asleep. See, I didn't do a WBTB, I just awoke and started the technique after rolling over. I did fall asleep and I remember about 3 false awakenings and 2 of them were Lucid. The first Lucid was short, I did your floor crawling technique but everything went gray. I immediately entered another FA through DEILD. This one was longer, I shouted "MORE LUCIDITY" when I walked outside (This wasn't the clearest Lucid I've ever had). It didn't help that I tried to teleport via dream spinning and closing my eyes. This led to another DEILD induced FA in which I lost lucidity almost immediately. In conclusion, I will definitely continue on with this method and see If I get any improvements. I just need to make my lucids clearer and longer. @Sydney and mutualdreamer I almost had trouble falling asleep as well, after doing the technique I just continued observing the images behind my eyelids until my mind wandered. I also tend to purposely think about something that makes me happy or calm. Good thoughts I guess.

Originally Posted by Sea07: I tried this technique last night and the following results occured: I slept through my 4:30 alarm but awoke at daybreak, probably around 6:30. I thought "even though my mother will be up in another hour or so, I'll try it anyway." So, I did the techniques as stated in the OP and found myself drifting off regularly. When I decided it was enough I took about 10-15 minutes to fall asleep. See, I didn't do a WBTB, I just awoke and started the technique after rolling over. I did fall asleep and I remember about 3 false awakenings and 2 of them were Lucid. The first Lucid was short, I did your floor crawling technique but everything went gray. I immediately entered another FA through DEILD. This one was longer, I shouted "MORE LUCIDITY" when I walked outside (This wasn't the clearest Lucid I've ever had). It didn't help that I tried to teleport via dream spinning and closing my eyes. This led to another DEILD induced FA in which I lost lucidity almost immediately. In conclusion, I will definitely continue on with this method and see If I get any improvements. I just need to make my lucids clearer and longer. @Sydney and mutualdreamer I almost had trouble falling asleep as well, after doing the technique I just continued observing the images behind my eyelids until my mind wandered. I also tend to purposely think about something that makes me happy or calm. Good thoughts I guess. -------- Last night, I did a full fledged WBTB by staying awak about 30 minutes after awaking and got no results so @Sydney suggested that I only stay awake (during WBTB) for around 5 minutes. You, though, did not stay awake at all and seemed to have awesome results. Tonight, I will try not staying awake at all and see how it goes, if I fail again, I will try @Sydney's suggestion. P.S. Thanks a lot for the falling-asleep tip !

@McDreamy Yes, it is an intriguing topic for sure, and thank you! @mutualdreamer Good idea. I find that if I get up for too long I just can't get back to sleep. OK, give it a go, I think my lucids last night were a bit (lot) blurry because I was too tired when I started the techniques. Yes, tonight I will try getting up to use the toilet (I always need to pee in the morning) because a full bladder can keep me up and it may give me that extra bit of focus and in turn, more vivid lucids. No problem about the sleeping tips, I really hope they help you and Sydney both!!

Same thing that happened again last night. I think I did the technique correctly, fell asleep, but woke up to my alarm clock in the morning. @Sea07: Yeah, I just usually get up to use the restroom like you said you probably needed to do And getting up also helps me get a little bit of awareness to actually do the technique without falling right back to sleep after hitting the pillow. Tonight will be the night!

Originally Posted by Sea07: @McDreamy Yes, it is an intriguing topic for sure, and thank you! @mutualdreamer Good idea. I find that if I get up for too long I just can't get back to sleep. OK, give it a go, I think my lucids last night were a bit (lot) blurry because I was too tired when I started the techniques. Yes, tonight I will try getting up to use the toilet (I always need to pee in the morning) because a full bladder can keep me up and it may give me that extra bit of focus and in turn, more vivid lucids. No problem about the sleeping tips, I really hope they help you and Sydney both!! -------- How did it go for you last night?

@CosmicIron Oh, I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sure it's nothing personal whatever it is but we're all different, it just takes people time to adjust to other's ways. I wish you luck in the future though and thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience here on DreamViews! See you. @Sydney You're right, I'm like you and need to gain a little awareness before trying to relax again, otherwise I'll just fall asleep again! @mutualdreamer It didn't go so well. I set an alarm for 2:30 this morning because my parents had to get up at about 4:30, If I set an alarm then they would disturb my efforts. Anyway, I slept through the alarm and ended up waking naturally at 4:30. I got up to use the toilet and returned to bed, did about 4 repetitions and then my parents got up. I couldn't sleep with them walking around so I just stayed relaxed and did more repetitions. When they left I tried falling asleep again but the birds started their morning song. Once that starts I just can't go back to sleep so I got up and here I am now... If I fell asleep again I would have had some lucids for sure. Tonight will work, no-one can disturb me then! @Sydney AND mutualdreamer Good luck tonight! Originally Posted by daban: Got thrown in and out of a luciddream 3 times this night with this technique, all 3 was OBE's. Very vivid, also my first OBE's. I atleast THINK it was due the few reps of this I did. Thank you -------- Nice work, keep it up mate! I think I've covered it all for now.

Originally Posted by yuppie11975: I'm finally trying this, I can't ignore the massive sucess rate. -------- Awesome! @CosmicIron: Okay. I understand. But thank you so much for telling us all this amazing new technique! Without it I would be struggling no doubt! Thanks again!

@yuppie11975 Aha, yep it is quite a successful technique. Keep us posted on your progress. @CosmicIron What Sydney said, I believe this method will become the core of my Lucid Induction, without it I would be relying purely on the hopes I would question my reality in a dream, which never seems to happen. So again, thank you.

I did everything perfect and was undisturbed but I still didn't get lucid Dx. I told myself to wake up after 5 hours, woke up at some time, used bathroom, got water, did 5 cycles, fell asleep in good time, had normal dream . Tonight I will try not getting up at all and see if it goes better then.