Senses Initiated Lucid Dream Ssild

Originally Posted by mcwillis: I doubt it was just your intent as it has been producing awesome results and yours can be added. Several people are saying 'last night', are you doing this with wbtb or before a nights sleep? -------- I'm pretty sure its not a placebo. I'm just not 100% sure. I used it with wbtb. I stayed up for like 5 minutes.

^I agree with you that this is not a placebo...WILD, DILD are placebo : I think I found another theory behind this technique. /have you guys ever wondered that why you lucid dream well during naps or late morning, not EARLY in the morning? The reason is, that the brain structure which allows us to produce those 'dream-like images(hypnagogic images)' called interbrain or diencephalon, is activated with cerebrum both awake together easily at that time, which makes us lucid in dream fluently. However, during night, like I said early in the morning, there's a high possibility of interbrain and cerebrum being asleep. So using SSILD, you can activate your interbrain a little stimulating your senses (seeing, feeling, hearing) thus, you can have either OBE, WILD, or even DILD, or at least you suspect your dream! well just my opinion. what do you guys think?

well I'm not saying WILD and DILD are placebo per se, I meant that those take more intent and right mindset with some effort to have them during night than/contrary to SSILD. just my opinion, well most of my WILDs are from intent in my head without a thought, it's simple but it's kinda hard

One thing that's missed for this technique (I think), is the intent at the end of cycle!! You have to 'intend' to have WILD or DILD or whatever the techqniue it is, your mind have to have desire to LD, without a thought, without a doubt. Carefully following the steps is perfectly fine I think, but with intent I think it would be more successful

Originally Posted by [email protected]: One thing that's missed for this technique (I think), is the intent at the end of cycle!! You have to 'intend' to have WILD or DILD or whatever the techqniue it is, your mind have to have desire to LD, without a thought, without a doubt. Carefully following the steps is perfectly fine I think, but with intent I think it would be more successful -------- That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent.

Originally Posted by mcwillis: That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent. -------- You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok: You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams. -------- Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams.

Originally Posted by mcwillis: Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams. -------- Did you know what lucid dreaming was at the time of having them? If so then yes, there was a small bit of intent. If no then you are a "natural". Which is a special circumstance that not everyone can have. And until you do that experiment you can't use it to back up your statement.

I emailed CosmicIron about one of my attempts, where I was doing everything correctly and wasn't getting results. Here is what he exactly said: Hi, Normally people do the exercise with a lot of mental effort and expect immediate result. This is a common mistake that causes them loss of sleep. Since the exercise is designed to work after you fall asleep, losing sleep will not help you succeed. Your problem, on the other hand, is the exact opposite -- you fall asleep too quickly without entering the trance. The trance is the state when you become deeply relaxed, your mind begins to wander, and you often forget about the exercise. The longer we hold onto this state, the more likely we will succeed later. This is much easier to deal with than the losing sleep problem . You can try the following solutions: 1. Increase the number of repetitions. Do not fall asleep until you sense you have entered the trance -- mind begins to drift, you forget which step you are into the exercise, and etc. 2. With each cycle, you should feel you are going deeper into the trance. The sensations should feel more real with each cycle. For example, do not expect to be able to see anything during the first couple of cycles, but in later cycles you should observe a bit more intently and expect to see something out if the dark. Same thing goes for hearing things. In the beginning you don't expect to hear anything but later you should expect to hear the noise in your head more clearly. Please be careful though -- do NOT force yourself if you absolutely don't feel anything. Being able to fall asleep always has much higher priority. 3. During the last step where you try to fall asleep quickly, you may want to occasionally quickly glance at the darkness behind your closed eyelids. Do this very quickly and sparingly, do not focus and absolutely do not stress your eye muscles! If you feel this is keeping you from falling asleep then you should drop it and let go of everything to fall asleep ASAP. You don't have to do all three above. I suggest you try them and find the right balance between entering the trance and falling asleep. If anything, you don't want to lose sleep so please do not stress yourself! -------- Hope this helps some of you

welcome to “baidu tieba” of China，talk about Lucid Dream 码几个英文真辛苦，一号水军“玄朔先生”报道，有后续的水军来吗？ the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means …… I can 形容 sorry hope sb. can 解释 I forgot the link search www。baidu。com,then enter "清明梦".fand the "清明梦吧" lucid Dream website It's the Chinese biggist website which is research and Communicate Lucid Dream. or tieba。baidu。com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CE# turn "。"to" ."

Originally Posted by happenloo: the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means …… I can 形容 sorry hope sb. can 解释 -------- 有沒有另外個詞來形容“灌水”？中國人用的有些新詞我還看不懂，太久沒上微博了。哈哈。 Basically I think he meant he's from China and he's just looking around. He said that there's a lucid dream forum dedicated to Chinese in China and here's the link: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CE He wants to invite us over to chat with them about lucid dreaming but I guess there would be some communication difficulties. Originally Posted by mcwillis: 很抱歉，但中國海軍有做這個線程？ 我不能說中文，所以使用谷歌翻譯。 -------- That is surprisingly accurate for google translate. But some words can't be taken literally and he's definitely not from the Navy. I'm not quite sure what those two words meant too.

[QUOTE=Carrot;1861973]有沒有另外個詞來形容“灌水”？中國人用的有些新詞我還看不懂，太久沒上微博了。哈哈。 哈哈，不为难你们了，用简单的意思的解释一下。“水军”是论坛内使用的名字，指代一类人。他们不是“jus t looking around”。“just looking around”这类人称为潜水。 “水军”意味着他们喜欢“灌水”。我们把论坛比喻成“酒”，水军喜欢往酒里灌水，使论坛的话题变得失去味道 。 他们通常喜欢发些无关紧要的话题，或者胡乱回复。他们可以是一个论坛变得热闹，也可以使一个论 坛变得无聊 OK，差不多这么解释吧，还期待有其他中国人过来一起玩呢~ In China the "Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)" is named "太玄经"。 I try many times but I only success once——the first time I try this method. now I have no Lucid Dream near by two weeks