Senses Initiated Lucid Dream Ssild

Hi, I stumbled upon this info (SSILD technique) while browsing for meaning of certain dreams! I found it interesting and thought I'll try it for fun, as this was my first encounter with All the kinds of lucid dreaming techniques you people are talking about in short forms!! With little experience of meditation I tried your technique for the first time but I got distracted by my unchecked daily alarm. The very next time it WORKED!!! I was astonished with the INCREDIBLE experience!!! I experienced OBE > LD > OBE and FA which ultimately lead to real awaking!!! I would like to share my experience with a twist! In the hope of some contribution to further development Of this amazing and simple technique. I followed every step as you mentioned carefully till the point where you have recommended sinking into a pillow as I thought I am not going to naturally fall asleep and subconsciously kept on repeating the steps again. In the first step I was trying to imagine my girlfriend but mixed it with many other images in process. Still i was unable to sleep at this point i gave up! But thought of just giving it a try by falling asleep while Simply focusing on slide show of the pictures I wanted to experience in LD as step 1 followed by other steps As you mentioned and within few minutes I was In OBE (I think immediately after trying to roll out of bed! though I didn't encounter anybody I wanted to as in slide show!!) Floating in my room, with which I got so excited that in the rush and bit of fright woke up opened the door of my room and saw my sister studying only to wake up again for real! I have to queries, 1. How to make dreams more lucid? 2. How to guide LD to experience what you (consciously) want to experience in LD while using SSILD? Please let me know! I have also started experimenting with this proposition and would defiantly share With you all as I progress! Thank you for sharing this technique! A+

Originally Posted by Aks: Hi, I stumbled upon this info (SSILD technique) while browsing for meaning of certain dreams! I found it interesting and thought I'll try it for fun, as this was my first encounter with All the kinds of lucid dreaming techniques you people are talking about in short forms!! With little experience of meditation I tried your technique for the first time but I got distracted by my unchecked daily alarm. The very next time it WORKED!!! I was astonished with the INCREDIBLE experience!!! I experienced OBE > LD > OBE and FA which ultimately lead to real awaking!!! I would like to share my experience with a twist! In the hope of some contribution to further development Of this amazing and simple technique. I followed every step as you mentioned carefully till the point where you have recommended sinking into a pillow as I thought I am not going to naturally fall asleep and subconsciously kept on repeating the steps again. In the first step I was trying to imagine my girlfriend but mixed it with many other images in process. Still i was unable to sleep at this point i gave up! But thought of just giving it a try by falling asleep while Simply focusing on slide show of the pictures I wanted to experience in LD as step 1 followed by other steps As you mentioned and within few minutes I was In OBE (I think immediately after trying to roll out of bed! though I didn't encounter anybody I wanted to as in slide show!!) Floating in my room, with which I got so excited that in the rush and bit of fright woke up opened the door of my room and saw my sister studying only to wake up again for real! I have to queries, 1. How to make dreams more lucid? 2. How to guide LD to experience what you (consciously) want to experience in LD while using SSILD? Please let me know! I have also started experimenting with this proposition and would defiantly share With you all as I progress! Thank you for sharing this technique! A+ -------- Congratulations on your success! As for your questions, I have difficulty to provide you with a concise answer... there are entire books written just to answer these questions, LOL. I can give you a few tips though: To make dreams more lucid (I assume you meant to achieve higher lucidity) it is important to tell yourself that you are dreaming all the time. Set short-term goals of what you want to accomplish -- it's basically micro-managing. Even stuff like "running up that stair" should be treated like a goal, and immediately after accomplishing it you set another one. You can of course also try shouting in the dream, such as "More lucidity now!". This works sometimes, but not all the time. As for how to experience what you want to experience, it really has nothing to do with what technique you use to induce the LD. A lot of people tend to use the "direct" approach such as trying to manipulate dreams mentally. This is difficult because we don't really believe in our ability to accomplish the task. It is a lot easier to use the "indirect" approach. For example, opening a door might lead you to somewhere new. Reaching behind that corner might allow you pull out the person you wish to see. A trick I find particularly useful is to use your hands. That's right, if you want something to happen, just use your hand! For example, you can paint on a wall and make it become real. It's much easier than just using your imagination.

A couple of questions, CosmicIron. 1)In the new tutorial, you advocate for a some quick cycles, and after that you go for the longer ones. The longer ones have also gone from 20 seconds up to 30 seconds. Does it considerally improve the technic? 2) Supposing I lose count of how many cycles I have already done, should I estimate, do one more, or begin all over again and do 4 more cycles? 3) If during a cycle I realize, for instance, that staring at my closed eyelids has begun giving some minor response, like dots or patterns... should I move on to hearing, or should I continue the sight step until it develops into a lucid dream?: Thanks a lot, I am gonna try this technic out

Originally Posted by lucsande: A couple of questions, CosmicIron. 1)In the new tutorial, you advocate for a some quick cycles, and after that you go for the longer ones. The longer ones have also gone from 20 seconds up to 30 seconds. Does it considerally improve the technic? 2) Supposing I lose count of how many cycles I have already done, should I estimate, do one more, or begin all over again and do 4 more cycles? 3) If during a cycle I realize, for instance, that staring at my closed eyelids has begun giving some minor response, like dots or patterns... should I move on to hearing, or should I continue the sight step until it develops into a lucid dream?: Thanks a lot, I am gonna try this technic out -------- My answers: 1. Yes the dual-mode of cycles considerably outperforms the original single-mode design. Use the quick cycles to help you relax quickly, and the slow ones to absorb you into the trance. You will find focusing on the sensations become MUCH easier and more comfortable after performing the quick cycles. 2. Just one more cycle should suffice. 3. I cannot stress this more -- do NOT go after the effects. You should NOT be doing the cycles for the sake of producing HIs. Just do the cycles for the sake of doing it, and once you are done you just go sleep. Having said that, should you indeed encounter HIs and other sensations, you can stop cycling and try mentally nudge them and once they respond to your mental command and become amplified you can try phase entrance right there.

Originally Posted by lucsande: Thanks a lot for the answer, CosmicIron. I tried the technic last night, no LDs at all. But I got a very vivid dream and I am pretty satisfied for just the first trial. -------- I got my first lucid after 3 days of using this method. Don't expect it working at first day

I really didn't expect instant results, especially because I am just beginning this LD thing and therefore my brain is still learning that reality is a tricky concept. But I got much more vividness just out of the first time. It was such a great feeling that I am sure to stick a little longer to this technic after even bigger results

Originally Posted by lucsande: One last question: why is this Senses Initiated Lucid Dream technic called SSILD, with double S? Just wondering... -------- Because the name SILD has been taken... I think it was "Song Initiated Lucid Dream". Not sure how effective it was, but nonetheless it was there long before SSILD.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat: Hi CosmicIron. I was wondering if you would consider writing a new SSILD tutorial? Now you have many more people's experiences (including successful and unsuccessful attempts!) that have improved the technique. -------- Hey Bobble I finally did it. The new tutorial can be found on my blog (DV wont let me edit this post): http://cosmiciron.blogspot.com

Yup, I'm gonna try this tonight. I'm worried I'm getting a bit of an overload here at DV though. I can't remember all these techniques I'm supposed to be trying out :p Anyway, this might be the dumbest question ever, but when you have an FA in your bed, an OBE or your LD starts where you fell asleep or whatever, what are you wearing? I'm asking, because it kind of sounds like you're saying, you could have all these FAs or something resembling an OBE, and so basically you just 'wake up' as you fell asleep. So, should we be wearing clothes before we go to sleep? I'm getting worried that if I expect to wake up naked in a LD, then I will. And I don't think I will have the power to summon clothes just yet xD Lula x

Thanks for pointing me to the latest tutorial, I read it last night and I was all excited. Then I messed it up horribly. I hit the snooze button on my phone (which I haven't done in years). Then I woke-up five minutes later, and I was so exhausted that I completely forget what I read. So I did the cycles weirdly and out of order. Anyways, I messed this up so bad I ended up having no recall. I'm going to try again tonight.

Also guys, I read somewhere on this thread (or maybe in the new tutorial...or maybe somewhere else entirely), that you shouldn't try talking to yourself when you find yourself in a LD. Now, I talk to myself constantly, when I'm alone IRL. Is it that much of a problem when you're in a LD? Also, will it make your subconscious super-friendly? Lula x EDIT: Ok, I've made my way through every post and I'm hoping to try this tonight, but I can't say for certain, because the past few nights I've woken up from terrible nightmares, and when that happens, I can't do anything more than curl up under the covers. That's why I'm going to bed so late, so hopefully when/if I wake up, it will be light and I won't be so easily creeped. If I do attempt SSILD, I'll let you know

Originally Posted by lulapace: Also guys, I read somewhere on this thread (or maybe in the new tutorial...or maybe somewhere else entirely), that you shouldn't try talking to yourself when you find yourself in a LD. Now, I talk to myself constantly, when I'm alone IRL. Is it that much of a problem when you're in a LD? Also, will it make your subconscious super-friendly? Lula x EDIT: Ok, I've made my way through every post and I'm hoping to try this tonight, but I can't say for certain, because the past few nights I've woken up from terrible nightmares, and when that happens, I can't do anything more than curl up under the covers. That's why I'm going to bed so late, so hopefully when/if I wake up, it will be light and I won't be so easily creeped. If I do attempt SSILD, I'll let you know -------- Talking to yourself while in LD will likely cause the dream become unstable. As for subconscious being friendly or hostile... I think it actually partially depends on you. If you are friendly it will react accordingly. One way to counter nightmares and fearful creatures is to show friendliness and compassion toward them.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss: Talking to yourself in an LD is fine. Saying things like "I'm dreaming" will keep you aware. I do it every day. -------- Brandon, you are right but I'd consider that a special case. In general though a lot of inner-conversation will result in pre-mature awakening or other instability within the dream.

Gahhh, first LD this morning!!! Yeah, so in the end, after hours of moping about, I went to sleep about half 3 in the morning, after practically running from the bathroom to my room, despite having all the lights, bar one, on - yeah I am that weird about the dark/night/monsters. I woke up at around 7:40 and thought about doing the SSILD. So I did, but my thoughts kept on wandering and in what I presumed was not a good way, because I was just thinking about how I would write-up everything I was doing, you know, "Hmm, this worked for me. Then this happened." etc. I fell asleep and woke up quickly, but it definitely wasn't a FA and if it was, it was insanely realistic. I did about 3 different RCs and they all failed. Anyway, I kept on doing the cycles, nothing much happened in them, but you said that's fine. The feelings one was good, lots of tingles and vibrations and the hearing one was the worst, because it is well busy here day and night and my clock ticks But anyway, I thought it was difficult to fall asleep, but then I did and had some dreams. I know they were dreams, but I wasn't lucid. I was in my bed, right where I left myself, but I was on my computer. It didn't feel like a FA, it felt like a dream, but I wasn't aware (I think I tried doing RCs though, I can't remember clearly now). Anyway, I don't know what happened next, but I woke up in my bed and my computer was there, but it was going wappy and strange stuff was happening on it and I knew I was dreaming! I looked at my hand and could only see it's outline and it was kind of hard to keep track on. And I said, "Omg, I'm dreaming!" My voice felt really thick and distorted and I felt like I was losing the dream, so...I rubbed my hands together!! It worked. I got out of bed and practically skipped across the room towards my door. Unfortunately, I didn't concentrate on gaining more lucidity or control, I just shouted in a kind of weird super-hero voice, "I will be in Teesside!" Everything felt thick again, so I crawled around on the floor and I could feel it, I could really feel it. But that made me even more excited so I woke up. It was 9:05. So, it lasted about 10 seconds and it was kind of gloomy, but it was a LD!!!!! The feeling was just incredible. -------- Originally Posted by CosmicIron: In general though a lot of inner-conversation will result in pre-mature awakening or other instability within the dream. -------- Yeah, tbh, it is more of a detailed conversation. I mean, IRL I don't have a full-blown conversation, because nobody is really answering me except myself, but I do a lot of talking Lula x EDIT: This is kind of a response to my own question about clothes, but I'm hoping someone can elaborate. I went to bed in underwear and a jumper (you know, just in case it gets a bit chilly in that lucid world! ) I was wearing the jumper in the LD dream, but the only point at which I was aware of that was when I was looking at my hand. I couldn't feel the cold floor until I got down and crawled around on it and I wasn't aware of whether I was wearing clothes or not. I guess that just comes with better awareness?

I have tried this technique on and off about a dozen times without success. Then yesterday I read CosmicIron's blog with the excellent description and explanation of the technique, as well as the Q&A section and realized "Hey, I haven't been doing this exactly right." Last night I decided to follow the instructions on the blog to the letter and guess what happened?: Even though it's almost exactly what the instructions say to do, here's what I did along with what the experience was like: - Went to sleep at 1AM, set my alarm for 6AM (5 hours later) - When my alarm went off I answered a few emails and then got up to go to the bathroom and get a drink of water. This took 5 minutes. - I lay down on my back and did 6 quick cycles. They got progressively slower, so I might spend 3-5 seconds per sense in the first one but maybe 6-8 seconds per sense on the last. This happened naturally since I got more relaxed and absent minded. - Did 4 slow cycles, 30-40 seconds per sense. - Once I was done I tried to fall asleep, with difficulty. I did some reality checks to make sure I was really awake and then when they failed, I continued to just try to drift off to sleep. - At some point, I snapped awake. It was like someone tore a blindfold away from my face and a dream version of my bedroom appeared. I knew I was dreaming immediately, almost as if I was expecting it. Perhaps my mind was subconsciously conditioned to be waiting for a dream to happen (just like the guide says). Thanks CosmicIron, I will continue to try this technique following the instructions to the letter. I enjoy the approach here because usually while monitoring my senses I would be trying to monitor my INTERNAL senses (noises or visions in my head, vs real sensations picked up by my ears and eyes). Here I can just focus on what's really happening, it's much simpler and less stressful.