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Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis
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yeah, but you're not forced to upgrade right away. Just because your warranty is expired doesn't mean the machine is bad. I mean, the thing is going to last several years anyway, so what's the point in getting it right when it launches? I guess if you buy one a couple months before a new ones launches, you're screwed, but you don't languish a car purchase just because a new one is going to come out next year. Apple's website actually states that they expect your computer to last 4 years.
I don't know about you, but I start putting away for my new computer about a year until AppleCare expires. Then if my computer dies 6 months after and it's not cheap to fix, then I can expect not to pay an arm and a leg more than expected. If it lasts 4 years then I'm ready to buy and if it lasts longer, then I get an even better computer than I needed (or a new iPad).
The beauty of the MacBook Pro line used to be that you could get real work done while out in the field. The Wifi connectivity to your camera is pretty much useless unless you're in your studio. All of the needs you've described would be served by a nice desktop sitting in your studio.
I use my MBP to record music in remote settings. I need a laptop that is powerful and reasonably portable with a reasonable selection of ports. I also want the ability to upgrade my laptop's RAM and hard drive. I don't give a fuck about how thin my laptop is. If I could do my work on a thin laptop, I would look closely at the MacBook Air. My ~15 year old PowerBook G4 is as thin as a "pro" laptop should be. Fuck, if someone could make a thinner laptop but then use a larger battery to keep the laptop around 3/4 of an inch thick while retaining the ability to upgrade the hard drive and RAM, I'd be really happy.
What improvement does the SurfaceBook have over the new MBP? Last I saw, their top tier video card was worse and they are also capped at 16gb ram.
17 machines? - lol...
Ok, so in relation to overall PC sales (64 million this quarter), it's quite small, now isn't it? -/s
My point being, it wouldn't make a dent in the PC marketplace, meaning what's right for your industry isn't necessarily right for everybody else. And vice-versa.
> The beauty of the MacBook Pro line used to be that you could get real work done while out in the field. The Wifi connectivity to your camera is pretty much useless unless you're in your studio. All of the needs you've described would be served by a nice desktop sitting in your studio.
Not at all, the 70D can act as a ad-hoc network and I can pull images that way. However I actually will have a great little mobile breakout box in my bag anyway, just in case. (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWT7MEA/)
> I also want the ability to upgrade my laptop's RAM and hard drive.
I don't think a Mac is for you then. Nothing wrong with having your needs.
> I don't give a fuck about how thin my laptop is. If I could do my work on a thin laptop, I would look closely at the MacBook Air.
I do. I need the power of the MacBook Pro but every pound saved is great.
> My ~15 year old PowerBook G4 is as thin as a "pro" laptop should be. Fuck, if someone could make a thinner laptop but then use a larger battery to keep the laptop around 3/4 of an inch thick while retaining the ability to upgrade the hard drive and RAM, I'd be really happy.
USB Type C power allows for external power batteries. Not as elegant as having it attached, but if you need 15 hours its possible. For me its not worth the weight -- I work from coffee shops and co working spaces with plenty of access to power anyway.
Mate is sold as the more stable linux anyway, right?
Although I owned a 2008 MacBook, I actually didn't make the full switch till 2013. I really took a hard look after a lifetime of building my own machines and running windows and tinkering ... it just wasn't worth my time. The Apple Tax translates to so much time and frustration savings, the fact that if something is wrong I can just walk into an Apple Store and say "fix it" and have so much extra time with my family is worth paying FAR more than what I pay for Apple products.
The Surface Book allows removing the screen from the keyboard so that the screen can be used as a tablet. It also has a touch sensitive screen. I don't like the fact that I can't upgrade the RAM or hard drive on a Surface Book, but I'm okay with the justification MS gives for that fact. The Surface Book is an insanely powerful laptop that is also a bad ass tablet with mediocre battery life. The new MacBook Pro line is full of laptops that are needlessly thin while sacrificing upgrade ability and they don't have a touch sensitive screen.
I'll probably keep reading books on my iPad, but I won't buy another Mac product again.
You are way too quick to justify losing features that should be a given at the price point we are talking about. I fully understand you like the ecosystem, and as do I, but think logically about what you're saying.
oh dude, for sure. I'm not trying to assert that Macs will take over. they never, ever will. The world runs on linux and windows. Business mostly runs on windows.
The creative industries are uniquely Mac-heavy, that's about it.
The 17 was obviously talking about his team. How would he know how many MacBooks are in the digital marketing INDUSTRY? Please put on your thinking cap.
I've had image retention problems with my iMac and apparently the issue is very common with retina iMacs. Screens cost 500 dollars on eBay. So, I was thinking abit about selling it before apple care expires just to be safe. I was hoping they would announce new Mac pros or even minis with tb3 but sadly no dice.
Hey, nothing wrong if people want to use macs for that sort of thing, but a System76 machine might be perfectly fine for people who don't do the kind of work that you do. See my point?
What if I was to tell you that there are devices outside of $3000 cameras that utilize SD cards?
Right? I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Nah, I like the idea of future devices being USB Type C universally, and I like Apple kinda pushing the industry ahead a bit.
I have no problems with a breakout box, the price of the MacBook Pro, or having to buy a few new cables for my iDevices. *shrug*
I understand and respect that other people have an issue with it. Maybe sales will be terrible and Apple will pivot (for the first time). But this is the ethernet jack / superdrive / floppy disk removal of yesteryear. I'm sure it will survive.
Put on your thinking cap and imagine how those numbers stack up against overall PC sales.
The world doesn't revolve around what you or I or what he does. There's a bigger overall picture than that if you bothered to open your eyes and skip the tunnel vision.
No, but in my office most of the design team is going to switch to Surface Studios when their iMacs are up for refresh.
What is your view on Mac OS, compared with Linux?
Galaxy s7 still uses sd cards. Lots of folks still use them and many are 256gb and bigger.
I kind of miss setting up Linux and customizing it, I find that all really fun, but at the same time I like how apple hands you something unix like that is all gift wrapped and easily maintained from the get go. I don't know. I would probably be quite happy to go back to Linux as my main OS but I would just miss the polish of OSX
Linux Mint main distro uses it, its an offshoot of ubuntu.
I love mac OS but hate iOS and don't like the current apple hardware offerings.
>> The beauty of the MacBook Pro line used to be that you could get real work done while out in the field. The Wifi connectivity to your camera is pretty much useless unless you're in your studio. All of the needs you've described would be served by a nice desktop sitting in your studio.
> Not at all, the 70D can act as a ad-hoc network and I can pull images that way. However I actually will have a great little mobile breakout box in my bag anyway, just in case. (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWT7MEA/)
If you're using your 70D as an ad-hoc Wifi router, it's going to be far slower than plugging an SD card into the fucking slot that has been standard on MacBook Pros for over a decade. And again, you're citing a piece of equipment that professionals shouldn't have to keep up with for plugging their SD card into a "Pro" laptop.
> I also want the ability to upgrade my laptop's RAM and hard drive.
>>I don't think a Mac is for you then. Nothing wrong with having your needs.
Oh, fuck you. I've been really happy with Mac laptops for over 10 years. Apple used to make really high quality laptops in the MacBook Pro line that were really easy to upgrade. Everything is soldered to the motherboard now for the sake of making the laptop thinner at the expense of the ability to ever upgrade the laptop.
> I do. I need the power of the MacBook Pro but every pound saved is great.
>>My ~15 year old PowerBook G4 is as thin as a "pro" laptop should be. Fuck, if someone could make a thinner laptop but then use a larger battery to keep the laptop around 3/4 of an inch thick while retaining the ability to upgrade the hard drive and RAM, I'd be really happy.
I don't think your weight savings on a thinner MBP matter at all when you have to carry an adapter to plug your phone into your laptop and an adapter to plug an SD card into your "Pro" laptop. Saving a pound or two on the weight of a laptop is massively outweighed by having to carry extra adapters for any professional that travels constantly...
Its not sold
I would rather have the battery life of Windows/macOS on my Linux laptop.
How do you deal with Window management on MacOS? I've got an iMac and my core Windows PC but it's always a struggle to keep windows in MacOS organized compared to Windows. It's the main reason I still use Windows as my main OS and don't really enjoy using MacOS.
> but I am not a huge unity fan.
You're in luck. You can change the desktop environment trivially.
Why use a linux knockoff like OS X when you can use the real thing!
See if tools are okay in current state -> have company hire a programmer or two for open source contributions to the toolchain you need -> profit
Enough companies do that, tools will stop being a problem very quickly. They'll even be able to get patches really fast and have custom features added.